Why is rape so much in demand? General thoughts.
2023-01-17 23:37:06 #1 
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Default Why is rape so much in demand? General thoughts.

The term "rape" is prohibited on adult sites, as well as the demonstration of rape (real and role-play). I think this is happening because there is a real need for it. And it arises, in my opinion, due to the prevailing social rules, tolerance, flourishing feminism and a highly loaded pace of life.

Wikipedia describes the term "rape" like this:
Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority, or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, has an intellectual disability, or is below the legal age of consent. The term rape is sometimes used interchangeably with the term sexual assault.

--- What is the benefit? ---

>>> For the violated side - it is always damage (physical, mental, or both).
>>> For a rapist - is the satisfaction of some needs (sexual or psychological, or both). At the same time, in my opinion, the need is satisfied for a short time and later returns again. I would compare it with the symptomatic treatment of the disease.
If the need returns again, then "symptomatic treatment" did not help. So the problem goes deeper. I think that in this case, the "rapist" needs the help of a specialist (which one depends on his problem).

--- Is there any sense in such sexual intercourse? ---

I would split this part into 2:

1) Real rape.
Apparently, the negative consequences of such sexual intercourse are much greater than the benefits - causing real damage to the "victim", highly probable negative consequences from the point of view of the law, and most importantly, the problem has not been solved.
>>> So, I don't see the point in real rape.

2) Role-playing rape.

I think this is a great opportunity:

a) Try a new role, thus expanding your sexual potential. It should be understood that such a role-playing game is quite high-stress for both partners (if you are honestly immersed in the role), you need to be prepared for this.

b) "Symptomatic treatment" of an emerging problem. I am sure that such role-playing games will help to cope with a mild form of a problem that has arisen (or is emerging) or to identify a problem (after all, a person, especially someone suffering from something, most often cannot determine his problem himself).
>>> So, role-play rape has a multifaceted meaning.

These are all just my thoughts and logical assumptions. I have never experienced real rape (role play I tried once - this video was banned from adult sites).
It would be very interesting to hear the opinion of the club members on my thoughts, as well as to know your experience (real, role-playing, rapist, raped).

Let's figure out together why this topic is so popular on adult sites that it is banned.
 
2023-01-18 22:50:44 #2  
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I feel there is entire forums dedicated to actual rape, and it's victims. TV talk shows and News Media have reported and discussed the topic of rape since at least the 1980's, and most likely much longer. It hard to go into more depth than the information that is already out there.
Also, I have never been a part of rape, so I do not have any insight.

It would be good for the psychological community to dig deeper into the outcomes of rape victims minds. I feel the data here is not as complete as it could be.

*** Part 2 of your answer about role playing rape, I have had experience with. And it was shocking and surprising to me, as I was raised that rape is a very terrible thing.

Two examples come to mind immediately. Both were requests made by the female I was having sex with and both were ideas of the female on her own, with no input from me.

Female 1 - After having sexual encounters a few times, She asked me if I would be willing to sneak into her house through her garage in the middle of the night and then forcefully have sex with her. I didn't know what to say, and explained that because she was in a condo, it might be dangerous to leave her garage door open at night, in case someone else decided to enter instead of me.

Female 2 - She was in college and invited me to a college theater performance that she was in, afterwards we went to a motel, and I thought it would be fun to use restraints since she seemed the kinky type. Once I have her tied to the bed, she asked me to hit her. I stopped and was silent for a moment as I wasn't sure I understood what she wanted. She said she wanted me to hit her in the face really hard. I explained that I couldn't do that, it felt really wrong and I started to wonder if this event was something she planned. Like that I was being setup to look like a criminal. I started to lightly slap her across the chest, but she said that wasn't enough. She mentioned it felt like only 30% of what she wanted. We slept together and when she woke up in my arms, she seemed normal, not angry. But then she left and we only messaged each other after that. (never met up again)
Maybe I could have done things more like she wanted, but I had red flags popping up all over the place in my mind. She had a performance on stage the next evening, why would she want me to hit her in the face? And she wanted me to hit her hard. That just did not make sense to me.

Could I have done what both women wanted? Yes Could I have done it well? Yes
I just felt an overwhelming urge to not go through with it because of how I was raised, and the fear of crossing "the line" with a female.

In these cases, I think it would have been better if the females had thought about how to make me comfortable with their requests. I would have been much more likely to proceed if I understood there was no danger for me or if things could be done without danger.

These two events taught me that females sometimes crave excessive force during sex.

Later, once I had been through these events, I remember looking through a website called www.kink.com, and there they had some gang rape simulation video. It was more of a game.
The woman was to be left in a building (fully clothed) and she needed to try to escape from the building. In the building were many men. These men could use any means to try and capture her.
The woman would receive more prize money if she could prevent the men from getting her clothes off, preventing them from making her do oral sex, preventing them from having vaginal sex and lastly preventing them from having anal sex with her.
In the video, she didn't make it very far, but her efforts seemed genuine. The lack of scripting made it interesting.

So then it occurred to me that this could be an erotic event with this type of scenario. It seems both men and women enjoy having the female be helpless in a sexual situation. Obviously this is further than the typical bondage helplessness.

I would be also curious to see what others have felt and experienced in role-playing a rape scenario.
 
2023-01-19 14:44:30 #3  
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Thank you very much for sharing your experience!

The fact that you did not agree to do what both women asked is very right and good (for you).

Sexual rape is rape only on a physiological level.
That is, if the abused party has a physiological need for sex, but her cultural constraints prevent her from having sex. In this case, sexual "rape" comes to the rescue, as a result of which both participants in the process receive physiological satisfaction.

Now I will state my thoughts on each case, and then I will draw a general conclusion.

>>> Case "Woman 1".

> Possible reason #1.
Considering that you've already had repeated sex, it could be an intuitive need to expand her sexual potential. But I doubt it very much.

> Possible reason #2.
Survive/end the stress that she began to experience a long time ago.
The supposed reason is that in the area where she lived (lives), there was a maniac who sneaked into houses and raped women (from a lot of films and information, I see that stalking is a common phenomenon in America).
She was afraid of it. The maniac was caught, nothing happened to her personally, but the fear of violence remained. She continues to be in this stress. In order to complete this stress, she needs to bring her fears to the end - of being raped. However, she does not want to be raped by a real maniac.

>>> Case "Woman 2".

In my opinion, this is clearly a psychological case. There can be no talk of sexual rape here at all.

> Possible reason #1.
Her life is too "vanilla" - everything is safe, tolerant, "fluffy". She lacks stress. The scenario she suggested is a one-time reset of all accumulated dissatisfaction.

> Possible reason #2.
Her motive goes much deeper. It is possible that she wants to realize some kind of revenge against someone and for this use anyone who agrees.
Revenge can be expressed like this. You tie her up and beat her as she asks. In the morning, she is happy with a beaten face and goes to the police and files a rape report against you. The police arrest you, the court, the punishment by the court. So she gets what she wants and you become the "victim".

>>> So my conclusion. >>>

Such requests from women can be characterized as the removal of the social and cultural responsibility imposed by society to achieve the desired result. This includes coercion, blackmail, and violence/rape.

I see it as a form of practical treatment for a psychological problem (I'm not talking about sexual empowerment here).
In order to implement these and other similar requests from women (and men too) without prior agreement, you need to be an experienced practicing psychologist who understands what he is doing and understands how to properly direct events in order to benefit the "needy" and himself do not get into an undesirable situation.

In all other cases, it is impossible to agree to what was not agreed in advance!

>>> What is a "prior agreement"?

I am sure that a verbal agreement is definitely not enough. There must be something tangible:
> a signed contract indicating passport data, etc.
or a more reliable option
> a recorded video of both participants, where each participant introduces himself and talks about what will happen now, and his agreement and lack of claims.
 
2023-05-06 14:23:49 #4  
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I strongly disagree with the suggestion that rape is in demand due to social rules, tolerance, or feminism. Rape is never acceptable, and it is not a symptom of any larger societal issue. We need to focus on supporting victims of rape and educating people about the importance of consent.
 
2023-05-06 14:25:25 #5  
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It is important to note that rape is a serious crime with devastating consequences for the victim. Any discussion of rape should be approached with sensitivity and empathy.
 
2023-05-06 14:27:06 #6  
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Rape is a symptom of a patriarchal society that values men's desires over women's autonomy. It is never acceptable, and we need to work towards a culture of consent and respect for all genders. Discussions of "role-play rape" perpetuate harmful myths and trivialize the experiences of real victims.
 
2023-05-06 14:28:34 #7  
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As a member of the clergy, I feel compelled to speak out against any discussion of rape as a legitimate sexual act. The teachings of the Bible are clear: rape is a sin and a violation of God's will. We need to work together to create a society that values and respects all human life.
 
2023-05-06 14:29:58 #8  
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I appreciate the author's willingness to discuss a sensitive and taboo topic. It's true that role-play can be a way for couples to explore their sexuality in a safe and consensual way.