Somewhere the tree has roots
2023-01-17 13:19:43 #1 
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Default Somewhere the tree has roots

Another episode of me describing facts from ancient times. So buckle up and enjoy.

I could go lightly and chose to talk about simulated "family sex porn" or the idea that "family" could have different meanings.

This topic is considered taboo, the actual act of having sex and possibly a full relationship with a member of your direct family. Not a second cousin, or even a cousin. I mean a direct sibling.

There is many many cases of people being sexually and emotionally attracted to a sibling or even a parent. Most of the time this gets dismissed and shamed.

Sigmund Freud noted in his research his sexual attraction to his daughter. He looked at it from a purely scientific viewpoint, but the fact is, it was there.

Is there something to it? Something real about human attraction that we have suppressed because we were taught that it is wrong?

Some people point to old medical articles saying that genetics tells us it's wrong because of chromosome abnormalities, or higher risk of cancers. But the truth was revealed in recent studies that there is no more risk of the chromosome defect than in a monogamous relationship. And studies of Amish families who marry and produce offspring from same bloodlines actually have almost zero cancer rates.

I was brought up to think this was not only wrong, but completely disgusting. Through studying research of cancer risks, I stumbled across this information and had to rethink what I know.

If you think about it, it's even logical, as we know families in ancient times were of only siblings, and possibly even parent and child relationships. The genetic history of humans shows that for many generations this was how it had to be, and so was accepted as the normal.

How did it change to the rules we have now? When did it change? It sure doesn't seem to have stopped the natural desire, or Julia wouldn't have found it listed as a major genre in taboo.
 
2023-02-11 22:16:48 #2  
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Default Not "just sex" is taboo.

In most families, being naked is an absolute taboo.
Talking about sex is also taboo.

For me, that lays the foundation for why society is the way it is. Everyone does "it" (sort of) but nobody talks about it because you can't even talk about sex with your loved ones. How is reasonable sex education supposed to take place?

Well, I was lucky enough to grow up in a tabooless (?) family. My parents raised my brother and I to think that nudity and sex are natural. We didn't have to wear clothes or have be naked. Everyone could wear what and if they wanted. (Most of the time we were naked ) It was the same with sex. Our parents have lived it. We saw (see) it as natural to have sex or whoever wanted to masturbate.
We had "no taboo", so to speak. But it was the case that we never had sex within a family member. So me, with my parents or brother. When I think about it, I don't even know why. I don't know if we talked about it, now. In any case, there was and is no need to have sex with my brother or parents, that was is never my wish.

So taboo is probably defined differently in every family, but basically everything that has anything remotely to do with sex is taboo.

Or how do you see it?

Best regards
Chrischi
 
2023-06-02 21:56:50 #3  
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I think this is an area of mental psychology that needs to be explored.

We are too quick to dismiss feelings that are taboo in our modern cultures because of the rapid and life-long chastising that will occur.

I will admit that I have been attracted to a few of my family members in the past. They have been first cousin's, and not immediate family.
I don't feel I am alone in these feelings as many famous people have married their first cousins. Albert Einstein to name one.

The reason I feel this should be looked at more closely is (even academically) is Sigmund Freud explored being attracted to his own daughter. The feelings are valid, and it appears there is no reason for the taboo other than early religion creating rules to promote going outside the family for procreation.

If you think of it this way, it almost seems silly that the taboo exists.

Some people try to quote a previous genetic ideology that you will have higher risks of your offspring having a genetic defect, but this has been proven untrue. And in certain Amish communities where interbreeding within cousins is the norm, they have found entire groups to be lacking any cancer. (In fact they are trying to research why)

While I don't think humans should be attracted to their brothers and sisters, I feel it should not be discouraged the way it is. People should be allowed to be attracted to whom ever they feel. The suppression of inner feelings leads to animosity, severe depression, loneliness, and ostracized.